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Question about doing a CD Layout

Post by Morbid » Thu Mar 11, 2010 3:11 pm

So I am working on Funeral Age's layout for the new CD, and they really want to use artwork from Francisco De Goya on all of the pages. Is this legal to just take them as long as you give the credit to him?
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Post by Scott (S2C) » Thu Mar 11, 2010 4:33 pm

Since they are selling them (and possibly that doesn't even matter), just giving credit will not be enough.

To do it completely by the book, you would need to contact the artist or their representative (whoever owns the rights to the art, if anyone) and obtain written permission to use the piece for the specific task (ie pressing XX number CDs). Most times, that is enough, and then you just include a "used by permission" disclaimer and file the written permission along with the copyright paperwork.

If the art is considered public domain, I don't think the above applies, but I'm honestly not sure.

Sometimes the artist or rep will want a royalty paid of some kind for using the artwork, but most of the time they seem to be stoked to have the free publicity, same as musician's are with being on samplers or the like.

Hope that helps.

There are more music law savvy folks on here that could probably give you more details, but I think that's the short and skinny of it. :metal:
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Post by Blake NWR » Thu Mar 11, 2010 11:01 pm

Scott nailed it. :cheers:
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Post by Evil Red » Thu Mar 11, 2010 11:05 pm

I LOVE Goya! (almost bought a real Dali/Goya piece in Vegas!)

Sorry, no advice just agreeing with the artist choice. :cheers:
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Post by Chris Slack » Thu Mar 11, 2010 11:14 pm

Since Goya has been dead for over 100 years there is a good chance that his body of work is in the public domain. A copyright lawyer would be a good person to contact to find out if that is indeed the case :)

Underground artists are often stoked just to have their work used on a CD but a famous painter like Goya (or whoever represents his estate) would probably just laugh IF copyright is still valid on his work.
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Post by PnDsCm » Fri Mar 12, 2010 9:03 am

If anyone owns the copyright, many duplication houses won't even touch it for you. Discmakers in particular will vet artwork for copyright before it gets green lighted. Probably better just to use something that you own or have licensed if you don't know the ownership details behind it.
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Post by shadesofdarkness » Sat Mar 13, 2010 11:27 am

So if you're doing the layout does that mean you're back in the band?

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Post by Morbid » Sat Mar 13, 2010 4:28 pm

shadesofdarkness wrote:So if you're doing the layout does that mean you're back in the band?
No, we started it back in December and I told them I'd still finish it.
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Post by SLAM TV » Sun Mar 14, 2010 9:24 pm

I wiki'd it John, and Goya appears to be in the public domain.
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Post by Morbid » Sun Mar 14, 2010 9:44 pm

SLAM TV wrote:I wiki'd it John, and Goya appears to be in the public domain.
Alright, awesome, thank you for the info!

And everyone else, thanks for your input!
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Post by Morbid » Wed Mar 17, 2010 8:08 pm

Ok... so I had to download some templates and redo it now. But before I restart... I forgot what color properties to use. CMYK or RGB?
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Post by Morbid » Fri Mar 19, 2010 6:27 pm

Does anyone know a good place/company that does CD layouts that is very reasonable on price and does a good job?

This layout is taking far to long and is far to strenuous for me to keep doing. Any input would be GREAT!
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Post by Angie Decay » Sun Mar 21, 2010 10:58 am

You would have to get permission from the Artist or who has rights over the Artwork. Definately is not a legal thing to do.
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Post by Angie Decay » Sun Mar 21, 2010 12:01 pm

That is if you are selling the CD for a profit and you are going to make any money on it. If you are just making the CD out to give away then you would not have to contact the Artist or person who has the rights to the art.
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Post by PnDsCm » Mon Mar 22, 2010 8:57 am

Actually that's not quite true Angie. If you are duplicating someone's copyrighted work without permission it's in violation regardless of whether you are selling it. Again, a lot of places just won't do it.

Sorry about all that strenuous layout work John... make sure you drink plenty of water, eat right and get enough sleep.
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Post by Morbid » Mon Mar 22, 2010 11:14 am

Thanks for the new info!

And yes PnDsCm, I've been trying to do all of that. The last few months have just been hell on both my physical and mental health due to this, didn't get a good night sleep until a few days ago and have been going to the doctors because I had no clue what's been going on... now that this is over I feel so much relieved... still have some stress issues since its been so long... but yeah.

Anyways, any layout person would be great!
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Post by Adremelech » Mon Mar 22, 2010 1:06 pm

PnDsCm wrote:Actually that's not quite true Angie. If you are duplicating someone's copyrighted work without permission it's in violation regardless of whether you are selling it. Again, a lot of places just won't do it.

Sorry about all that strenuous layout work John... make sure you drink plenty of water, eat right and get enough sleep.
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Post by PnDsCm » Mon Mar 22, 2010 1:22 pm

I'm having trouble living in this new post-ironic world...
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