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Goddamn Economy!

Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 2:47 pm
by BigHurknFrontman
I lost my job today.

Living in a van down by the river? Not yet, but the day is young.:mad:

Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 2:49 pm
by skipp666
Fuck I hear you man. My day is up on the 2nd of Jan. :headshot:

Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 3:12 pm
by DeathFrogg
We're down to four days a week and the boss is talking about going to three.

That means there are bills that arent getting paid.

The Boeing strike, the general level of small manufacturing, everything is fucked. It'll be at least a couple months before that small overload parts market gets off the ground and we wont see anyting but the nickle and dime crap for at least that long. Can't pay my rent being $600 short every month.

Fuck you very much George.

Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 3:17 pm
by Adremelech
BigHurknFrontman wrote:I lost my job today.
Did you find it?


Sorry to hear that Hurk. Hang in there!

Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 3:45 pm
by PnDsCm
BigHurknFrontman wrote:I lost my job today.

Living in a van down by the river? Not yet, but the day is young.:mad:
I'm sorry dude.

Be careful everyone, this shit is a LONG way from being over.

Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 4:53 pm
by -deathboy-
shit, the print and document storage industries are boomin!
the gorewhore and i aren't goin anywhere soon.

yet, sorry to hear that hurk, but you're a smart cookie and a proud poppa, you'll take care of business.

Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 5:01 pm
by Adremelech
PnDsCm wrote:Be careful everyone, this shit is a LONG way from being over.
I'm surprised you aren't a goth rocker.













:D

Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 6:10 pm
by PnDsCm
I'm not chronically doomy. This is a once in a lifetime event. What the hell are you talking about anyway peak-oil-boy?

Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 6:36 pm
by soundguy
As I've said many times before, being self-employed is a LOT more work than a 9-to-5, but at least I'll never be fired. Thankfully, the porn business is pretty much recession-proof so my client base is actually increasing steadily.

Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 6:36 pm
by Adremelech
PnDsCm wrote:oil-boy?
Fixed that for ya.

Later, tater.

Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 6:40 pm
by SLAM TV
soundguy wrote:As I've said many times before, being self-employed is a LOT more work than a 9-to-5, but at least I'll never be fired. Thankfully, the porn business is pretty much recession-proof so my client base is actually increasing steadily.

Yeah well, you should give me some pointers on being self-employed then. My aggravation threshhold with the construction business is about reached....

Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 6:57 pm
by soundguy
SLAM TV wrote:Yeah well, you should give me some pointers on being self-employed then. My aggravation threshhold with the construction business is about reached....
1) - find something you can stomach doing all day every day

2) - make sure you can do it better than about 70-80% of all the other people doing it

3) - make sure there aren't a whole lot of people already doing it in the market or physical location you are interested in

4) - make sure it's something that people must have (or think they must have) regardless of the economy

5) - never compete on price

6) - never fuck people over

7) - take every opportunity to make yourself indispensable to your clients/customers

8) - never take any shit from anyone

Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 7:26 pm
by skipp666
Now is this digital storage?
I can tell you that the backup and archive market is shifting to disk and less tape. Which is one reason I'm loosing my job. R&D for tape got an ass pounding and I'm contract. Hence first to be cut.
Joe,
Back me up on this but any IT person who only has disk and no tape for archive is fuckin stoooooopid!
-deathboy- wrote:shit, the print and document storage industries are boomin!
the gorewhore and i aren't goin anywhere soon.

Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 7:28 pm
by skipp666
Oh yeah,
Check this site out.

http://www.indeed.com

Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 7:36 pm
by SLAM TV
Pat, check your m.ship email.

Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 7:51 pm
by MetalGoddess
Sorry to hear that, Bighurkin. You know I love ya!
Adremelech wrote:I'm surprised you aren't a goth rocker.
:D
Wurd, Joe! Hahaha!
PnDsCm wrote:I'm not chronically doomy. This is a once in a lifetime event. What the hell are you talking about anyway peak-oil-boy?
Yeah. What the fuck is up with the economy? I took the advice of an earlier post and still have my $400 worth of soup, along with bottles of wine and vodka, though. :skull:

Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 11:25 pm
by Evil Red
Shitty! Sorry to hear that, Hurk.

You can come park your van in Bellingham. I just filled up my tank for $2.15 a gallon! :metal:

(Joe~ it's the one on Meridian having the war with Costco.)

Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 7:35 am
by Adremelech
skipp666 wrote:Back me up on this but any IT person who only has disk and no tape for archive is fuckin stoooooopid!
As an old schooler, I trust a tape archive MUCH more than I trust ANY hard disk. So I personally agree with you

BUT - Disk archival is becoming more and more cost effective vs tape these days, and it's a lot easier to use. It's where archival is heading.

Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 7:35 am
by Adremelech
Evil Red wrote: (Joe~ it's the one on Meridian having the war with Costco.)
Ahh yes... The Punjabi Palace. I gas up there once a week!

Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 9:41 am
by -deathboy-
skipp666 wrote:Now is this digital storage?
I can tell you that the backup and archive market is shifting to disk and less tape. Which is one reason I'm loosing my job. R&D for tape got an ass pounding and I'm contract. Hence first to be cut.
Joe,
Back me up on this but any IT person who only has disk and no tape for archive is fuckin stoooooopid!

iron mountain stores everything you can possibly think of. legal docs, tape and disk, gettty images, smithsonian stuffs, medical samples, xrays, anything that needs to be stored. they are the biggest in the world, hell they even store the governments documents and nirvana's original recordings.

Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 6:42 pm
by Gore Whore
-deathboy- wrote:iron mountain stores everything you can possibly think of. legal docs, tape and disk, gettty images, smithsonian stuffs, medical samples, xrays, anything that needs to be stored. they are the biggest in the world, hell they even store the governments documents and nirvana's original recordings.
Yep, we do both hardcopy and digital storage..I am ass deep in documents everyday! Yeah for having a job!! And I just moved so now I am working back on the eastside again. No more commuting to Kent!

Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 7:08 pm
by skipp666
Ah, Iron Mountain, got ya.
Pretty much set there.

Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 8:59 pm
by chicknatas
soundguy wrote:1) - find something you can stomach doing all day every day

2) - make sure you can do it better than about 70-80% of all the other people doing it

3) - make sure there aren't a whole lot of people already doing it in the market or physical location you are interested in

4) - make sure it's something that people must have (or think they must have) regardless of the economy

5) - never compete on price

6) - never fuck people over

7) - take every opportunity to make yourself indispensable to your clients/customers

8) - never take any shit from anyone
Amen.

I have to agree with Pat that self-employment is the way to go...but only if you have a great idea or service, a niche that wants what you offer and the motivation and self-discipline that is required to run a business.

It's not very easy and not always fun. I'm literally exhausted most of the time - I've been at this since mostly non-stop for the past 2 years. I don't get out much or see my friends much, which sucks. But the benefit is that I'm in no way hurting financially...and I've tried to be smart about where I put my money.

I am going to start bringing on contractors next year. My business does graphic and web design along with virtual assistance. So if any of you have a graphic or web design background and you freelance, pm me. I'm especially interested in speaking with you if you are a programmer with skilled PHP/MySQL experience.

Amz

self employment enjoyment for sure

Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 9:06 pm
by YTSEJAM
I'm also self employed( sub contract and my own biz) in the fire and flood restoration biz and never out of or short of work. Even with the economy the way it is, people are still calling me constantly to get their houses painted. I have so much work I can work 16hrs a day, 6 days a week for a year solid. That's the beauty about working with insurance companies, everyone must have house or some type of insurance when owning a house or condo... never stops,

Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2008 8:31 am
by Adremelech
Self employment was good for me while the dot-com bubble ran its course, but I HATED having to promote and sell my services once the bubble popped.

Today, I don't make as much money, but do work for a very good company which has never once laid off an employee in its several decades of existence. They do pay me well, plus pay 100% of my medical, I get a 20% bonus every quarter, and they put 11% into my 401k (I don't have to invest a penny). My point: Self employment is great for many reasons, but working for a company has its perks too.